Lewis Capaldi has revealed he has been making music with The 1975’s Matty Healy.
The Scottish songwriter is building towards his second album, the stately-titled ‘Broken By Desire To Be Heavenly Sent’. New single ‘Pointless’ is out now, sculpted alongside Ed Sheeran – and it’s not the only collaborative session he’s been partaking in.
Launching the single with an interview on Apple Music 1 with Zane Lowe, Lewis Capaldi told the host he has been writing with Matty Healy.
“Listen, we wrote together for this album. I don’t think I’ve mentioned it before. So I love 1975. I think my favorite band just now. I just love how he is and how they are as a band in terms of the way he is now, especially, he doesn’t give a fuck,” Capaldi said of the 1975 frontman.
“I think the amazing thing about him, well, is that sort of self-awareness is a massive thing. You don’t put simple epicure and philosophy in your song and think, ‘why are people calling me pretentious?’ He knows. He’s incredible. I absolutely love him. And I think that was the thing, he reached out to me on Twitter initially and was like, ‘mate your class,’ more talking about interviews and stuff. And he said ‘you make me laugh.’ He says, ‘it’d be good to get together, write some songs and write some funny lyrics’ because obviously, he puts out his songs a lot more than I do. He’s hilarious.”
That said, the results won’t be online for a while yet – Lewis Capaldi held off including the collaboration on his upcoming album because “it’s weird”.
“It’s because it’s proper, proper weird and I’m not there yet. Maybe next record,” he commented. “We’ll get a bit freaky with it. But yeah, and he’d sit in kind of silence for a bit and I’d be playing away thinking. coming up with melodies And then I’d be like, is he still paying attention or is he bored of this? And then he would jump up, right? And give you four of the best ideas you’ve ever heard in your f***ing life. And then he’d sit back down again and you’d go, oh s**t.”
“What he’s doing is, and what a lot of pop writers don’t do is, he’s listening. Sometimes you’re in a room with writers, they’re just thinking out loud and they’re regurgitating and f***ing just spewing shit at you and you’re like, right, just give me a space to think, where he’s sitting in silence. I think that Matt Healy’s got that to a tee because it was such an amazing thing to be in a room with him. And then I was supposed to do another couple of sessions with him and I got COVID so I couldn’t do it. But, We got a song out of it.”
‘Broken By Desire To Be Heavenly Sent’ will be released on May 19th.
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